[WXBH-Discuss] Still Here...

Aron Conaway aronconaway at hotmail.com
Thu May 25 23:03:26 EDT 2006


Hmmm. I sent an email out earlier this evening, but it hasn't come through 
yet? But I will revisit it tomorrow. I am interested in meeting Sat. at 
3:30pm at my house or at the Brick House after I get off of work.

Also, I'll work with John Hicks on seeing if we can put together a tech 
committee listserv. We'll discuss that more soon. I am out the door to work. 
Will be in touch with Tech/ Engineering Folks tomorrow (depending on whether 
previous email goes through).
Good night, Aron

>From: topdog at woofer.com
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>To: wxbh-discuss at wxbh.org
>Subject: Re: [WXBH-Discuss] Still Here...
>Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 21:51:45 -0400
>
>Finally, a post that is on topic!
>
>Hi Virgil (and everyone else),
>
>At the last meeting I attended (in April) we decided that the IDEAL spot 
>for the
>transmitter would be right across the street from the Brick House at 2nd 
>and KY.
>There is a 16 story building there.  We could do the STL by WiFi or even IR 
>-
>lots of free possibilities.
>
>By the order of the Construction Permit, we must put the transmitter within 
>3
>miles of the original proposed site which is by U of L's Shelby Campus.  It
>could take longer to get a move approved then the time that we have to get 
>on
>the air (or have the license revoked).  The general concensus is to find a 
>site
>out there, get it running, and then apply for a move (if we can).  The 
>closer
>that we can move it west from there, the better a chance of actually 
>hearing
>the station at the Brick House.  It is very doubtful that we will hear it 
>at
>all.
>
>We may be able to use the building at 2nd and KY as a "launch site" for a
>microwave STL hop.  I hadn't thought of that until now. There are already 
>some
>sort of repeaters up there and our microwave might interfere with them 
>(whereas
>the actual transmitter shouldn't).  I don't know anything of the cost of 
>the
>microwave equipment vs. equalized lines.
>
>I haven't heard yet if anyone has asked any of these sites for permission 
>yet. I want to do a survey of the proposed transmitter area but have not 
>yet had any
>time.  If you are out in that area, keep your eyes open.
>
>Somebody mentioned a DSL line (and other options) for STL.  What I didn't 
>hear
>mentioned was ISDN which is a dedicated digital line that doesn't use the
>internet (i.e. you are on "full speed" all the time even if the internet is
>slow or even down).  Many stations use that format.  I used a device called 
>a
>Zephyr (a fancy ISDN CODEC modem) for a live show for over two years 
>without a
>glitch!  We can't afford a Zephyr ($6K each and 2 are needed) but I'm sure
>there is something else like that out there - maybe even some Freeware
>programs.  The Brick House does have quite a number of older computer parts
>which could be put into service for something like that.  Speed shouldn't 
>be an
>issue - ISDN is a 128K line as I remember.  A dedicated ISDN line costs 
>around
>$100 per month.
>
>I think we have the transmitter covered.  We do have some questions about 
>the
>antenna and I have been talking to some broadcast engineers about it - but 
>they
>don't know a lot about the LP rules.  On the CP, it lists only horizontal
>polarization but somewhere else it says that LPFM broadcasters can use
>horizontal OR vertical OR circular OR eliptical polarization.  No multi 
>bays. In that case, circular would be my choice but we would have to buy it
>commercially.
>
>If we went with strict horizontal, I would like to build it but we are 
>trying to
>determine if that is possible (per LPFM rules).  We can't go over our 
>allotted
>24 watt ERP (I know the calculation) but antenna gain is critical in
>determining that.  We are also not allowed to have an ERP of less than 12 
>watts
>so there is some leeway.  A dipole should have unity gain but we would have 
>to
>be able to prove that.  Homemade should only make it less gain and it's
>inconceivable that it would be more.  Our transmitter has a variable 
>wattage
>output from 10-100 watts.  If you know anything about this please respond.
>
>I think Aron is the goto guy coordinating the tech group with the Brick 
>House. I have proposed that we have some technical-only meetings 
>(preferably for me on
>Saturday afternoons) so we can get down to the brass tacks of getting on 
>the
>air.  Your help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Paul Nevitt
>Engineer
>
>
>Quoting Virgil Baldon Jr <vbaldonky at hotmail.com>:
>
>>
>>   Hello! With Derby and other ongoing projects, I've been swamped and 
>>couldn't
>>   attend any meetings. But things are easing up now, and I can make a fer
>>   meetings. A couple of observations on what I've read on the discussion
>>   threads:
>>
>>   1) I suggest you hold up on the studio-transmitter link discussion 
>>until the
>>   antenna relocation site is decided. Has anyone followed up on my 
>>suggestion
>>   of the old LG&E radio relay tower at 7th & Ormsby? The new site 
>>location
>>   will definitely bring in or rule out certain STL schemes. I can add RF
>>   equipment (antenna, feedline, transmitter and, if needed, microwave 
>>STL) to
>>   the equipment listing anytime.
>>
>>   2)  Be  VERY sure that any wire and cable you run through the walls or
>>   roof has jacketing that is
>>
>>   properly fire-resistant (e.g. "plenum rated") and wire of the proper 
>>gauge
>>   (diameter).  This  goes  for alarm, security, audio, video...anything.
>>   Inspectors WILL check!
>>   VIRGIL H. BALDON, JR.
>>   Broadcast & A/V Production and Consulting
>>   PO Box 485, Louisville, KY 40201-0485
>>   Phone: (502)772-3499  Cellular: (502)931-3963
>>   E-Mail: vbaldonky at hotmail.com
>>   Web: [1]http://www.angelfire.com/ky/baldonmedia1
>>
>>References
>>
>>   1. http://www.angelfire.com/ky/baldonmedia1
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