[WXBH-Discuss] Paul's rant on Programming

radical eclectic radioelectric at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 20 12:40:20 EDT 2006


you know... this sounds like a good discussion for a few people who have some time to sit down together and come up with workable alternatives together by focusing on how much diversity exists in the different facets of our community... thats exactly what would set our station and programming apart thus providing the foothold necessary to take the next leap once this 4 year permit expires... time to put all the ideas onto the table and get all the components of community supporting this action
   
  see you tonight at the committee discussion??

loyd coy <xscenedestroyerx at yahoo.com> wrote:
  i cant beleive that anyone thinks that the repeat of
blocks of programming is a good idea... that trend in
cable tv is the worst thing to ever happen to
television aside from reality shows. i love the
history channel and other educational television but
when i have cable i end up watching tv just as little
as when i dont cause everytime i turn it on the same
programs are on. it makes me think twice before i ever
hit the power button.. and to be honest if what was
being repeated was shows dealing with garage rock,
prog rock, and zappa-esque stuff id want to shoot
myself in the face twice. i think that getting
democracy now and other syndicated shows is an amazing
idea. locally produced shows would of course be the
"key to our success" but the absence of a good
independent all encompassing news source would be a
disservice to the community NOT a disservice to the
programming of a station. i do not disagree with the
360 degrees of music thing, but when you are at a
level where you see repeating msuic with such a small
audience for 24 hours as a viable option id say that
beggars cant be choosers. any type of a station like
this should always be what the people involved make
it. so if for a while you have a ton of punk rock
types doing shows then it might lean in the
direction.. then if they all go away and all of a
sudden the hip hop community embraces the station,
then youd have a hip hop heavy format. i think
diversity should be a goal, but should by no means be
the only thing considered... all of this is only meant
ot be food for thought.

--- topdog at woofer.com wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm also interested in programming. I have a few
> friends (most of whom are
> audio engineers) who I have casually approached
> about possibly doing their own
> shows and they have all expressed interest. One guy
> is into old folk music,
> another is a progressive rock enthusiast, another is
> just into "weird" stuff
> like Beefhart and Zappa. I had thought of doing my
> own show of (highly 
> edited)
> garage band jams that I have collected over the
> years - many done with the
> Zappahead. Needless to say, all of the
> forementioned people (including 
> myself)
> have their own studios or access to studios so
> production costs would be the
> cost of blank CD's. If they want to "beam" their
> shows to us via the 
> internet,
> then the cost to us would be FREE.
> 
> I think locally produced shows would be the key to
> our success - and 
> what we all
> envision. I feel that subscribing to network
> programming (just to be 
> on the air
> for the sake of being allowed to be on the air) is a
> bit of a copout.
> 
> Lets say, for instance, that the four shows that I
> just mentioned are 
> approved. Lets also say that each show is a two hour
> block. That is 8 
> hours of local
> programming. There is a current technique being
> used by a number of from
> cable TV networks (i.e. the Food Network, History
> Channel, Discovery...) of
> repeating BLOCKS of shows. I think the same show
> you can watch at 8PM is on
> again at 12AM - and the 9:00AM show is on at
> 1:00AM... I can't currently
> envision anyone listening to us for more than 8
> hours at time so that 8 hour
> block could then be repeated and still seem fresh to
> most listeners. A
> "threepeat" would give us 24 hours of programming -
> at no cost whatsoever to
> WXBH!!!
> 
> The repeats do not have to be linear. Say that this
> 8 hour block is 
> programmed
> for the first airing on Monday from 8AM to 4PM. The
> repeat can be 
> Tuesday from
> 4PM until midnight Wednesday and the Threepeat
> starting at midnight on 
> Thursday.
> That way, all of the DJ's and all of their friends
> (our new listeners) have a
> chance to hear their show no matter what their work
> or school schedule may be!
> 
> Say there are seven of us interested in programming.
> If each of us found 4
> people to do shows (possibly including themselves)
> then we would have a 24/7
> week full of local programming. If all of these
> people had their own
> facilities (yeah... I know) then ALL of our
> programming would be free. Aron
> and I had talked about possibly running the station
> out of a closet from the
> transmitter site. Shows could be uploaded to a
> computer at the 
> transmitter via
> DSL (which seems to be our cheapest option). The
> scheduling could be done on
> the computer there. If we are not "live" then the
> speed of the lines (or the
> internet) is no longer an issue.
> 
> There are literally HUNDREDS of recording studios in
> the city of Louisville
> alone. All one really needs is a microphone and a
> computer. If the cost of
> producing the show could be made the burden of the
> DJ then production costs
> would be ZERO!
> 
> You don't need the best of computers to do this
> either. An old 486 with a CD
> burner and a sound card would suffice. I remember
> seeing quite a 
> number of old
> donated computer parts in the storeroom. Let's do
> something with them! An
> internal IDE CD burner is like $20 or so. For
> anyone interested in production
> or having their own show that does not have a
> computer, lets fix up a comp and
> give it to them for free (with a signed agreement
> that they give us x 
> number of
> shows or give us the computer back).
> 
> It would of course be ideal to have a live, on-air
> station but I think we have
> to be realistic - at least at first. Our main goal
> is to get on the 
> air and we
> have until Oct 29 to do so. Right now, the free
> time that I have is being
> solely devoted to the tech group and I don't get to
> read a lot of the
> Discussion Group topics. Once we are "on the air" I
> would love to help with
> the programming.
> 
> I think everyone sees the tremendous cost (at least
> to us) of having a
> production facility. Equipment, electricity,
> security, uncouth DJ's, heating,
> cooling.... Unless these grants come through, we
> are on our own. I don't
> envision "a lot" of money coming through
> underwriting or CD sales but it could
> pay for the electricity and DSL each month. If the
> DSL and rent at the
> transmitter site can be bartered through
> underwriting then electricity 
> might be
> our only cost (less than $50 per month). That is
> assuming that production is
> free.
> 
> I didn't know what "direction" we were going to take
> as far as the programming
> goes, but I envision it to be a bit of everything. 
> The Brick House is a
> community center and we have to serve our varied
> community. WFPK, as an
> example, has made "360 degrees of music" their
> motto. They stick to their
> motto. In the course of a 24/7 week they play just
> about everything but
> classical music and talk shows (their sister
> stations are classical and talk
> formats). I was thinking that we would kind of be
> the same but I 
> haven't heard
> anything formal about what the format might be. 
> That might be a good 
> topic for
> discussion.
> 
> I'll "sign off" for now. ;-)
> 
> Paul Nevitt
> 
> 
> 
> Quoting Jennifer Oladipo :
> 
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I joined largely because I'm interested in
> programming. From what 
> > I've gathered so far, much of the talk has been
> technical. I just 
> > wondered who else intends to have anything to do
> with programming, or 
> > if anyone has already taken the lead on that.
> >
> > Jennifer
> >
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