[WXBH-Discuss] Paul's rant on Programming

Mon Jun 19 19:37:31 EDT 2006

I'm sorry, but I for one enjoy the idea of ALL types and formats of shows 
(music, news, discussion forum) as long as there is an audience listening 
and contibuting some type of support.  I happen to like prog rock, garage 
rock, etc. among many other things and I think shows like that could do well 
in Louisville because there isn't an outlet for something like that here on 
our dial.  I can honestly say that I would welcome music like that on my 
radio, and would lend my support to keep it on the air.  I agree that 
repeating blocks of programming in excess (no matter what it is)  might be a 
bad move, but I don't think that was exactly the point being made. Whenever 
this project is off the ground, there will not necessarily be enough content 
to keep the broadcast going 24/7 without some type of repeating, there 
simply are not enough people with enough time.  And, again, I'm very sorry, 
but the idea of a "community" (i.e. everybody) station that is geared or 
oriented towards only one type of programming be it punk or sea chanties or 
local church services is a big turn off for me and I'm sure it would be for 
other people in the city as well.

A humorous anecdote, I recently found myself in an orientaion exercise with 
about 15 other people when we were asked to fill out a personality 
questionaire, one question being "What is your favorite radio station?"  
Aside from myself and one other person, (I listed a NY station, the other 
guy said WASE 103.5, an E-town oldies station) everyone in the room said 
"The radio here sucks."  Could this be the WXBH demographic?

>From: loyd coy <xscenedestroyerx at yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: WXBH Radio Discussion List <wxbh-discuss at wxbh.org>
>To: WXBH Radio Discussion List <wxbh-discuss at wxbh.org>
>Subject: Re: [WXBH-Discuss] Paul's rant on Programming
>Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:48:56 -0700 (PDT)
>
>i cant beleive that anyone thinks that the repeat of
>blocks of programming is a good idea... that trend in
>cable tv is the worst thing to ever happen to
>television aside from reality shows. i love the
>history channel and other educational television but
>when i have cable i end up watching tv just as little
>as when i dont cause everytime i turn it on the same
>programs are on. it makes me think twice before i ever
>hit the power button.. and to be honest if what was
>being repeated was shows dealing with garage rock,
>prog rock, and zappa-esque stuff id want to shoot
>myself in the face twice. i think that getting
>democracy now and other syndicated shows is an amazing
>idea. locally produced shows would of course be the
>"key to our success" but the absence of a good
>independent all encompassing news source would be a
>disservice to the community NOT a disservice to the
>programming of a station. i do not disagree with the
>360 degrees of music thing, but when you are at a
>level where you see repeating msuic with such a small
>audience for 24 hours  as a viable option id say that
>beggars cant be choosers. any type of a station like
>this should always be what the people involved make
>it. so if for a while you have a ton of punk rock
>types doing shows then it might lean in the
>direction.. then if they all go away and all of a
>sudden the hip hop community embraces the station,
>then youd have a hip hop heavy format. i think
>diversity should be a goal, but should by no means be
>the only thing considered... all of this is only meant
>ot be food for thought.
>
>--- topdog at woofer.com wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm also interested in programming.  I have a few
> > friends (most of whom are
> > audio engineers) who I have casually approached
> > about possibly doing their own
> > shows and they have all expressed interest.  One guy
> > is into old folk music,
> > another is a progressive rock enthusiast, another is
> > just into "weird" stuff
> > like Beefhart and Zappa.  I had thought of doing my
> > own show of (highly
> > edited)
> > garage band jams that I have collected over the
> > years - many done with the
> > Zappahead.  Needless to say, all of the
> > forementioned people (including
> > myself)
> > have their own studios or access to studios so
> > production costs would be the
> > cost of blank CD's.  If they want to "beam" their
> > shows to us via the
> > internet,
> > then the cost to us would be FREE.
> >
> > I think locally produced shows would be the key to
> > our success - and
> > what we all
> > envision.  I feel that subscribing to network
> > programming (just to be
> > on the air
> > for the sake of being allowed to be on the air) is a
> > bit of a copout.
> >
> > Lets say, for instance, that the four shows that I
> > just mentioned are
> > approved. Lets also say that each show is a two hour
> > block.  That is 8
> > hours of local
> > programming.  There is a current technique being
> > used by a number of  from
> > cable TV networks (i.e. the Food Network, History
> > Channel, Discovery...) of
> > repeating BLOCKS of shows.  I think the same show
> > you can watch at 8PM is on
> > again at 12AM - and the 9:00AM show is on at
> > 1:00AM...  I can't currently
> > envision anyone listening to us for more than 8
> > hours at time so that 8 hour
> > block could then be repeated and still seem fresh to
> > most listeners.  A
> > "threepeat" would give us 24 hours of programming -
> > at no cost whatsoever to
> > WXBH!!!
> >
> > The repeats do not have to be linear.  Say that this
> > 8 hour block is
> > programmed
> > for the first airing on Monday from 8AM to 4PM.  The
> > repeat can be
> > Tuesday from
> > 4PM until midnight Wednesday and the Threepeat
> > starting at midnight on
> > Thursday.
> > That way, all of the DJ's and all of their friends
> > (our new listeners) have a
> > chance to hear their show no matter what their work
> > or school schedule may be!
> >
> > Say there are seven of us interested in programming.
> >  If each of us found 4
> > people to do shows (possibly including themselves)
> > then we would have a 24/7
> > week full of local programming.  If all of these
> > people had their own
> > facilities (yeah... I know) then ALL of our
> > programming would be free.  Aron
> > and I had talked about possibly running the station
> > out of a closet from the
> > transmitter site.  Shows could be uploaded to a
> > computer at the
> > transmitter via
> > DSL (which seems to be our cheapest option).  The
> > scheduling could be done on
> > the computer there.  If we are not "live" then the
> > speed of the lines (or the
> > internet) is no longer an issue.
> >
> > There are literally HUNDREDS of recording studios in
> > the city of Louisville
> > alone.  All one really needs is a microphone and a
> > computer.  If the cost of
> > producing the show could be made the burden of the
> > DJ then production costs
> > would be ZERO!
> >
> > You don't need the best of computers to do this
> > either.  An old 486 with a CD
> > burner and a sound card would suffice.  I remember
> > seeing quite a
> > number of old
> > donated computer parts in the storeroom.  Let's do
> > something with them!  An
> > internal IDE CD burner is like $20 or so.  For
> > anyone interested in production
> > or having their own show that does not have a
> > computer, lets fix up a comp and
> > give it to them for free (with a signed agreement
> > that they give us x
> > number of
> > shows or give us the computer back).
> >
> > It would of course be ideal to have a live, on-air
> > station but I think we have
> > to be realistic - at least at first.  Our main goal
> > is to get on the
> > air and we
> > have until Oct 29 to do so.  Right now, the free
> > time that I have is being
> > solely devoted to the tech group and I don't get to
> > read a lot of the
> > Discussion Group topics.  Once we are "on the air" I
> > would love to help with
> > the programming.
> >
> > I think everyone sees the tremendous cost (at least
> > to us) of having a
> > production facility.  Equipment, electricity,
> > security, uncouth DJ's, heating,
> > cooling....  Unless these grants come through, we
> > are on our own.  I don't
> > envision "a lot" of money coming through
> > underwriting or CD sales but it could
> > pay for the electricity and DSL each month.  If the
> > DSL and rent at the
> > transmitter site can be bartered through
> > underwriting then electricity
> > might be
> > our only cost (less than $50 per month).  That is
> > assuming that production is
> > free.
> >
> > I didn't know what "direction" we were going to take
> > as far as the programming
> > goes, but I envision it to be a bit of everything.
> > The Brick House is a
> > community center and we have to serve our varied
> > community.  WFPK, as an
> > example, has made "360 degrees of music" their
> > motto.  They stick to their
> > motto.  In the course of a 24/7 week they play just
> > about everything but
> > classical music and talk shows (their sister
> > stations are classical and talk
> > formats).  I was thinking that we would kind of be
> > the same but I
> > haven't heard
> > anything formal about what the format might be.
> > That might be a good
> > topic for
> > discussion.
> >
> > I'll "sign off" for now.  ;-)
> >
> > Paul Nevitt
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Jennifer Oladipo <jenniferola at wildmail.com>:
> >
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > I joined largely because I'm interested in
> > programming. From what
> > > I've gathered so far, much of the talk has been
> > technical. I just
> > > wondered who else intends to have anything to do
> > with programming, or
> > > if anyone has already taken the lead on that.
> > >
> > > Jennifer
> > >
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