[WXBH-Discuss] From Pete
Pete Adams
pete_adams at hotmail.com
Mon Jul 17 13:10:28 EDT 2006
Hey this is Pete
I know this discussion board is for radio subjects but
Just wondering how everything is going. I would like to know how the sales
from the benefit CD are going? I went to Ear X Tacy before I moved and saw
that we sold a few. The only change I would have made is a track list on the
out side. Even though I am living in Indiana now, I would like to help in
anyway raise money again through a benefit CD.
Pete Adams
Sound Engineer/Producer/Musician
502-544-4477
pete_adams at hotmail.com
demo.to/studio2012
>From: "Aron Conaway" <aronconaway at hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: WXBH Radio Discussion List <wxbh-discuss at wxbh.org>
>To: wxbh-discuss at wxbh.org
>Subject: [WXBH-Discuss] There is an elephant in this room!!!
>Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 02:39:10 -0400
>
>
> Okay,
>
> First off, I apologize for being hot-headed and kicking up a lot of dust
> here on the radio discuss board. However, I am glad that Loyd said what
>he
> said though, because I think that he is right on a lot of points. On the
> other hand, I will say that sometimes there are times to take the
>treasure
> and flee the sinking ship (if it's in fact beyond repair). There
>definitely
> needs to be a lot more people bailing water right now (personally, I
>know of
> one reason that a lot of people won't walk in the door (ele...)). It
>sounds
> as though the board meeting last night was geared towards taking an
>honest
> and objective look at the situation.
>
> Personally, I jumped to conclusions as a result of my growing
>frustration
> with the issues I brought up in my first email today. My personal
> interactions and conflict have contributed to my brashness, short and
>nasty
> attitude, and inability to bite my tongue any longer.
>
> Apparently I don't truly understand what the purpose or function of the
> merging of the Board and the Radio Collective is and I guess I never
>will. I
> incorrectly made an assumption that since the Radio Collective is
>running
> the Board that the Committees discussed last night were designated for
>the
> Radio Collective. I was obviously wrong. My argument from the beginning
>was
> that this merging really confuses the entire situation and especially
> distracts the Radio Project from the purpose of getting the radio on
>air.
>
> I would like to clarify that I had created a website in HTML that is 99%
> ready to post (with a couple of fixes to go) and I felt as though I was
> meeting a lot of resistance to going ahead and posting it, once
> completed, as is, ready to go. I don't see any reason to refuse to post
> something that looks the same to everyone on the other end. Its too much
> extra work to translate it all to an entirely new system if it can go up
> today. I tried to create it in PHP months ago and it didn't work out for
>me
> or John. It was very difficult to figure out despite the dozens of times
> that I got on and worked on it. Being that I had a hard time with it, I
>feel
> as though the argument that the content management system will be open
>and
> accessible to anyone is inherently false. I think that there is only one
> person who can and will take the time to know how to work it and update
>it.
> But even if there were people to get on and learn the PHP, there is no
> reason to not use the finished and ready HTML site until someone who
>knows
> the content management system can translate the entire thing.
>
> Anyways, I will not be attending anymore meetings because of the
>"personal
> stuff".
>
> To all the new folks and those watching from the sidelines, I regret
> dragging you all through this. Please Radio Collective, keep your chins
>up,
> and pull this thing off.
>
> Peace, Aron
>
> I'll put all my past files on a DVD-R and arrange to get it to someone
>soon.
>
> Also, JK dropped two sponsor passes for the forecastle festival at my
>house
> today and I will pass those on to that someone too.
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________
>
> From: "Cory R" <coryri at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: WXBH Radio Discussion List <wxbh-discuss at wxbh.org>
> To: "WXBH Radio Discussion List" <wxbh-discuss at wxbh.org>
> Subject: Re: Re: [WXBH-Discuss] RE: Meeting Last Night
> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 21:58:54 -0400
> >To be fair, the only business discussed regarding Radio at the last
> >Board Meeting was approving the two Johns to continue negotiations
> >on
> >the tower location. I'm going to remain neutral in this, because I
> >don't know either of you well enough to make an educated opinion.
> >
> >As far as the PHP/HTML issue goes, anything HTML can harbor PHP, and
> >visa versa. The ongoing standard for design is in fact HTML, but,
> >HTML is only markup. The only technical difference between a php
> >page
> >and an html page is that the extension .php allows you to insert PHP
> >code into HTML pages. This I, a technically inclined person, would
> >consider a non-issue.
> >
> >Cory
> >
> >On 7/14/06, Aron Conaway <aronconaway at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>"the aron/kristen
> >> >situation, its not my place, jsut as it probably wasnt
> >> >his to address such personal issues over a community
> >> >list... but anyway"
> >>
> >>
> >>When one board member harrasses another endlessly, it should become
> >>the
> >>business of the group. This has been a personal issue for an
> >>extended amount
> >>of time and never resolves. It has become a real problem. If the
> >>group does
> >>nothing about it, then it cannot be expected that a board member
> >>simply
> >>tolerate it. I want you to know what kind of person you are dealing
> >>with.
> >>
> >>She has been asked to leave the collective once already. The reason
> >>was that
> >>we were informed that Thomas Jefferson Unitarian was doing a raffle
> >>for WXBH
> >>radio. During the raffle Kristen, without any permissin from the
> >>group, went
> >>to Martha Flack, who was organizing the raffle, about to cut a
> >>$1,000 check,
> >>and asked her for $200 cash for the Brick House's long overdue
> >>parking bill.
> >>She was pushy with Martha, and once Kristen left Martha made it
> >>clear that
> >>the encounter had made her uncomfortable and she had a bad
> >>impression of the
> >>situation. Jamie later told her that she was no longer welcome in
> >>the
> >>collective, which was consensus.
> >>
> >>Then, 6 months later, when I was gone to Europe in March for two
> >>and a half
> >>weeks and returned, she had slipped herself right back into the
> >>collective.
> >>I tried to put the personal issues aside, but it all picked up
> >>exactly where
> >>it left off. I have had no reason beyond the Brick House to deal
> >>with
> >>Kristen and have been successful at avoiding her in all other
> >>situations.
> >>
> >>I feel she is counter-productive to the radio project and I cannot
> >>perform
> >>to my fullest with her around, so I am gone. I have put up with the
> >>harrassment for entirely too long in entirely too many venues.
> >>
> >>I am explaining this because I don't want the reasons for my
> >>leaving and my
> >>reasons for embellishing to be misunderstood.
> >>
> >>***In regards to my posting to the radio discuss board, as I see
> >>that John
> >>has addressed: It was decided that the Radio Collective and the
> >>Board were
> >>going to be one, so i as "Radio Collective" am addressing Radio
> >>Issues that
> >>are being conducted in Board Meetings, which are open to all, but
> >>haven't
> >>really been advertised as such.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >From: loyd coy <xscenedestroyerx at yahoo.com>
> >> >Reply-To: WXBH Radio Discussion List <wxbh-discuss at wxbh.org>
> >> >To: WXBH Radio Discussion List <wxbh-discuss at wxbh.org>
> >> >Subject: Re: [WXBH-Discuss] RE: Meeting Last Night
> >> >Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:33:42 -0700 (PDT)
> >> >
> >> >i just moved here a few weeks ago from lexington. i
> >> >know that i have missed a few meetings and all but i
> >> >have been in the process of establishing a life and a
> >> >job and a routine here in louisville... its been a
> >> >little hard for me to make every meeting so far due to
> >> >that... im not gonna address the aron/kristen
> >> >situation, its not my place, jsut as it probably wasnt
> >> >his to address such personal issues over a community
> >> >list... but anyway what i will address is why i chose
> >> >to participate in the brickhouse to begin with. i used
> >> >to frequent the old brycc house. some of my fondest
> >> >memories in life involve it. it was amazing, and
> >> >taught so many people so much. i know the focus on
> >> >community projects was sort of lost due to the
> >> >constant need ot facilitate shows in order to pay the
> >> >bills.. but even with that said it had such an amazing
> >> >impact on this community and this entire region from
> >> >ohio to indianapolis to tennessee and even eastern ky
> >> >and the rest of appalachia. not to even touch on all
> >> >the travelers from farther away who past through to
> >> >see bands or participate in workshops etc... my
> >> >experience so far at the new brickhouse has been sort
> >> >of a letdown due to the turmoil in both the building
> >> >and the "staff"
> >> >
> >> >it seems as though the people involved in radio refuse
> >> >to recognise their commitment to and identity as part
> >> >of the brickhouse. brick radio is NOT its own entity
> >> >in entirety. i feel like anyone who wants to be
> >> >involved in one "collective" and shuck all
> >> >responsibility to the whole does not belong. i
> >> >understand that those interested in bikes, or
> >> >gardening, or shows, or radio might not care about the
> >> >community center as a whole, but it would not hurt to
> >> >participate in things needed to keep the whole that
> >> >shelters your own and all the other collectives going,
> >> >like general maintenance, fund raising, chores etc. it
> >> >would sem to me if your interest begins and ends with
> >> >a particular collective jsut the simple fact that the
> >> >brickhouse as a whole being the vehicle that makes
> >> >your participation in that collective possible would
> >> >motivate you to at least care a little.
> >> >
> >> >as far as financial issues go i want to address the
> >> >radio paying the way for brickhouse issue. i do not
> >> >think it is the place of radio to totally foot the
> >> >bill for the brickhouse. i do think it is radio's
> >> >place to help out if possible with the agreement that
> >> >said help should be returned when possible. more than
> >> >anything else we need to be taught to fish not given a
> >> >fish. if the radio people want to end the issues, then
> >> >in addition to help as a loan, how about help with
> >> >fundraising ideas that dont cost money. lets beat the
> >> >streets, flier and do anything else we can to get
> >> >money so that the entire brickhouse doesnt go under
> >> >taking everything including radio with it.
> >> >
> >> >i have a sneaking suspision(sp?) that there is some
> >> >wink wink nudge nudge good ole boy club stuff going
> >> >on, my fear of this is not as strong as others' cause
> >> >i give people the benefit of the doubt, but due to
> >> >some things ive seen and heard first hand i fear that
> >> >there is some concious if not purposeful action being
> >> >taken to set brick radio up to be able to continue IF
> >> >the brickhosue doesnt. when participating in something
> >> >like this, you cant just take things with you. it
> >> >doesnt work that way. if that is the motivation it is
> >> >deplorable and undermines the whole spirit of
> >> >brickhouse, brickradio, and any other community based
> >> >organization or non profit. if your interests in brick
> >> >radio are for personal gain, ego, or whatever else
> >> >would provoke such an attitude then you need to go
> >> >work for clearchannel. do not replicate the outside
> >> >capitalist empirial world within what could be such a
> >> >wonderful community project. if you want to do a
> >> >community radio without involvement in the brickhouse
> >> >then GO FOR IT. if you want to be involved in the
> >> >community radio that is part of the brickhouse then
> >> >get your shit straight.
> >> >
> >> >also due to what i mentioned above the overwhelming
> >> >representation of strong radio interests in the
> >> >brickhouse board of directors is a little
> >> >disconcerting. if you are on the board of directors,
> >> >but approach that role with brickradio's best interest
> >> >in mind as opposed to the brickhouse's best interest
> >> >in mind then you do not qualify for or deserve your
> >> >position on the board and should immediately step
> >> >down.
> >> >
> >> >i know im the new guy, and i dont mean to offend. i
> >> >just dont want to see one of the things that i was
> >> >most excited about in louisville go to shit because of
> >> >some people being sketchy and dishonest about their
> >> >intentions and not owning up to the inherent
> >> >committment their chosen activities neccessitate.
> >> >
> >> >as a last note i think i know where aron is coming
> >> >from and must say that i agree about the marketing/pr
> >> >issue. there is more in town than the
> >> >punk/HC/indie/arts community, but that community is
> >> >most likely where brickradio would find the most
> >> >support appreciation and adoration.
> >> >
> >> >--- Aron Conaway <aronconaway at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I missed the meeting last night and was not there
> >> > > for various
> >> > > personal-to-the-Brick-situation reasons despite the
> >> > > fact that I was doing a
> >> > > Music Show with Jamie at 6:00. I asked a couple of
> >> > > people about the meeting
> >> > > last night and upon receiving a couple of brief
> >> > > synopsizes, have very
> >> > > adverse reactions to the very significant direction
> >> > > that the project is
> >> > > moving in. I am unsettled by the recent decisions
> >> > > made in changing the
> >> > > structure of the project and sad to find out that
> >> > > there are committees being
> >> > > carved out without collective participation (from
> >> > > what I have gathered).
> >> > >
> >> > > First off, having Kristen as committee liaison,
> >> > > means Kristen will be in the
> >> > > mix of everything. That, right off, turns me off
> >> > > from wanting to be involved
> >> > > at all. Second off, I am not a
> >> >�financing-committee�
> >> > > type person, so this is
> >> > > not really the place for me. Third, I believe that
> >> > > my strengths and
> >> > > interests are clearly in the outreach and PR area,
> >> > > which fell I have made
> >> > > clear. I feel as though I am being drawn out of this
> >> > > position without any
> >> > > consideration at all for my opinion (also making my
> >> > > efforts to this point
> >> > > seem pretty under-appreciated). I have significant
> >> > > media contacts and the
> >> > > experience of making an Arts organizations
> >> > > financially successful,
> >> > > culturally significant and even legendary. I am
> >> > > friends with and know just
> >> > > about every profoundly significant underground band
> >> > > and musician in this
> >> > > town and can easily get them interested in
> >> > > participating in this project. I
> >> > > believe that I have a pretty clear vision as to how
> >> > > this PR campaign needs
> >> > > to be done for WXBH. But I am not comfortable with
> >> > > the way its rolling
> >> > > presently.
> >> > >
> >> > > Months ago and recently I have found it nearly
> >> > > impossible to be able to put
> >> > > to good use all my time, effort and talent put into
> >> > > the newly designed
> >> > > website, because John H. keeps insisting that it be
> >> > > done in his PHP format.
> >> > > I designed it in HTML and in my experience (and
> >> > > opinion), everyone who
> >> > > designs strong and easily updatable websites,
> >> > > designs in HTML. It is the
> >> > > most useful and universal design language there is.
> >> > > I feel John is being
> >> > > overbearing and controlling with his web server.
> >> > >
> >> > > I am uncomfortable with the recently developed
> >> > > executive committee situation
> >> > > and find it very stifling to my ability to be
> >> > > effective and even in feeling
> >> > > comfortable in taking any personal ownership in this
> >> > > project.
> >> > >
> >> > > Kristen is at the LAVA House painting shit on my
> >> > > belongings and painting
> >> > > cryptic words like "BE WELL" on the floor in front
> >> > > of my studio. This is
> >> > > absolutely insane and makes me not want to be in the
> >> > > same mile as her.
> >> > > Kristen you are a fucking nut! Stay out of my way
> >> > > and as I have told you
> >> > > repeatedly keep my and Hallie's name out of your
> >> > > fucking mouth. I will never
> >> > > again be a part of this project unless she is 100%
> >> > > gone. She's all yours.
> >> > >
> >> > > I am stepping out of this situation.
> >> > >
> >> > > Good Luck.
> >> > >
> >> > > Free Agent Aron Conaway
> >> > >
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