[WXBH-Discuss] Message from the Universe

Sun Jul 16 10:18:18 EDT 2006

Instead of stirring up drama here, please do it on your own time.  I
find all of this drama both disgusting and unprofessional.  Please
take this off list.

On 7/16/06, Aron Conaway <aronconaway at hotmail.com> wrote:
> For the record, I have never been associated with vandalizing anyone's car
> in my life (nor has Hallie). I have no knowledge of anyone doing so to
> yours. I suspect you may have more enemies that you like to think. Greg
> Martin has been in Campbellsville at a summer camp working with kids. Before
> you make accusations and slander people, consider that you are speculating
> 100%.  We have better things to do with our time (like taking school trips
> to Europe to earn a Master's Degree) than spend it thinking about you (as
> you like to believe).
>
> You are the one that has to live with the fact that, well meaning or not,
> you bring chaos into every situation you enter. You constantly set things
> ablaze to make your self a victim of other people's anger at your irrational
> behavior then demonize them. You always have convenient excuses and tell
> yourself that these wild coincidences between your actions and other's anger
> are some amazing work of the cosmic universe. Your fabricated drama is
> everyone else's cross to bear.
>
> The proof is in the pudding.
>
> And I move on, yet again leaving an organization I am passionate about to
> get away from you....
>
> So it goes.
>
>
>
>
> >From: radical eclectic <radioelectric at yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: WXBH Radio Discussion List <wxbh-discuss at wxbh.org>
> >To: WXBH Radio Discussion List <wxbh-discuss at wxbh.org>
> >Subject: [WXBH-Discuss] not necessarily worth everyones reading
> >time...kristin isnt nuts
> >Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 12:32:29 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >first off i see nothing wrong with what loyd said... more to the point:
> >
> >   aron... scrap the public attitude and realize that you do take things
> >wrong from time to time just like i do... seriously i dont have the luxury
> >of throwing in any towels or curbing my network scheduling of collective
> >reconnections in this community simply because i answer to these people out
> >of lasting commitment to change in all our lives as i have been for 20+
> >years... you as an activist know that my life is in it and that my learning
> >to become better as a person is to make some mistakes and learn to forgive
> >others as they make theirs... yes its hard when the same shit comes up
> >again and again but we all have to see how we play back into it even by
> >well meaning effort
> >
> >   road to helll paved with good intentions etc. .... normally i would stop
> >here with the public address and send a separate email to just you and
> >continue the revisions of your notes as dialogue but i dont trust that you
> >will see the value in reasoning so i will allow others to be a judge for
> >themselves and do my best to leave out names and dirty laundry such has not
> >been the case in the past on anyones part from time to time
> >
> >   foremost in the LAVA... i will tell you that the shit i painted on
> >Glenns building as many have done without permission  and the eyeball
> >specifically was not considered yours or directed at you if you must know
> >because i got my own wood to help you stabilze that ladder at your request
> >collaboratively for what i considered to be common safety on lava
> >property... nothing on the ladder said 'aron's do not touch' seeing as its
> >a junky piece of wood and you and i know that to be petty shit...
> >
> >   and then the floor painting issue goes on all the time for years... i
> >responded specifically to words already painted on floor 'felled,
> >destroyed' along with your signage of 'hate well' on the wall in front of
> >the tool crib commons where we all head when going for tools and music
> >selection i sought to balance the energy by writing 'be well' which is a
> >common closure statement in my emails as a general 'happy as we go on our
> >own ways' sort of moniker instead of say a peace sign or harmony which i
> >painted elsewhere because someone other than me likes to torment and
> >terrorize anonymously in the place where i create... if you see that as
> >fucked up psycho shit then i would say you try too hard to catagorize or
> >confuse me with other people
> >
> >   never mistake the fact that i defend my right to egalitarian expression
> >and self defense
> >
> >   as far as the names in my mouth bit lets just say that you folks work in
> >public sectors and when your friends bring up your name or it comes up to
> >do with business or otherwise less savory discussion then i just try to set
> >the boundaries and make it clear that over extending on my part will lead
> >to this very sort of public flagellation and slag rag crap which looks alot
> >different than what people know me for which is show up and get the job
> >done fairly or in a timely manner... i have tried to drop this issue over
> >and over but there are indicators that other people sense brewing illness
> >from the past and push it forward also.... from the start it has been clear
> >that hidden agendas have proliferated and compromised the public work
> >because private worlds collide when personal agendas dont leave room for
> >apology and egofree re-evaluations
> >
> >   i do tell the truth and work to be cooperative even if i have emotive
> >moments...
> >   learn to look forward is the best i can offer because these are not the
> >things worth passing on to the future or worth hanging the possibilities of
> >the present... your call
> >
> >   it is a bit sickening when each of  the latest power broker scenesters
> >marks me as either a useful tool to their ambitious ends or as specific
> >blockage to be removed or targeted for character assignation according to
> >my own weaknesses with regards to not being on the gopher roster of
> >personal manipulation... fact is i am capable and could be more capable if
> >this constant need for individuals to define their own power role as
> >separte from ones community didnt amount to jockeying for stature in some
> >heirarchy in society at large via fulfillment of timely personal agenda or
> >ambitious master plan to pay off ones own overextended debt ...
> >
> >   i am not interested in excluding sectors of the community in the
> >planning stages or any other stages if community radio or a community
> >centers  are to live up to the long term commitment and accountability...
> >thats why i stomach working with people who make my skin crawl quite
> >frankly
> >
> >   i am willing to admit when i am wrong as i always have been if that
> >indeed plays out as the reality because i never said that i had all the
> >answers so much as enough experience to provide input in a variety of
> >situations.... take it like you like aron and hallie and you can get into
> >business with jaime till the crow flys to destruction... the more
> >organizers the better in this world but quit thinking that your perception
> >is the only game in town or the most accurate one because its turned out at
> >other times that your choices lead you to some of these realities when they
> >suited your purpose
> >
> >   fact is that all this is more than most folks care to hear about but
> >since it needs ironing out or to be sorted into working sectors if not
> >tossed out... so be it... i dont have the luxury of dropping off and taking
> >a trip to europe or utah when the creative whim calls or undervaluing you
> >and the work you do because i am in this for the right reasons as imperfect
> >of a communicator as i might be... i wont speak for anyone but me at this
> >point when i say that you told me you sold out a long time ago and i surely
> >never wanted to believe that so much as i thought you were seeking a
> >greater understanding in being able to survive in this complicated world
> >with your partner as is
> >
> >   good luck with whatever you do and as i always say... be well...
> >portland calling is a great name and if your community holds strong then
> >its nothing but a benefit for all
> >   this is not competition or slag fest even if you think thats how its
> >been going... i dont like having my car tampered with or seeing other
> >peoples either... thats no game so i am sorry if i have expressed true
> >feelings that such events always connect up with drama that you and hallie
> >have feelings about or are involved in... im fucking serious that none of
> >this happened at all until the big 'lets move out of lava and take the best
> >with us campaign' after we all worked like dogs... i have nothing to do
> >with that mess and want nothing from those ideas to be negative for
> >anyone... i do sympathize with you on wanting to move out but the politics
> >used on me and others in that effort rotted denmark to the core to the
> >degree of physical threat and real hate... thats not me nor will it ever
> >be... i told you i would never work with you on anything that greg martin
> >was involved in and i certainly meant it as good policy... i am trying not
> >to include hallie in my thoughts one way or
> >  another as i do see quality in her and always have despite the darker
> >sides of ambition which i steared clear of early
> >
> >   for the record i will gladly say that i never want to believe anyone
> >would do such things as egging cars and painting on cars or breaking
> >windows and flattening tires but it was never a part of my life until the
> >past 2 years when these internal power struggles began... i saw the same
> >thing when the hex collective chopped up and smashed mac computers at the
> >other brycc site... too much bullshit and not enough intentional value... i
> >never want it to be a part of my life again and dont like to be around
> >people who, seen or unseen, associate with it or passively allow it to
> >stand..
> >
> >   i really hope that your not down with that either... i used to be
> >certain that you would do no such thing but now i just want to say that you
> >make your own world by your involvements... i know nothing about such
> >things and apologize to you for painting to the positive value of words...
> >i dont think 'be well' deserved the response of 'beware and fuck off' but
> >thats something i have no time for cleaning it up anymore or thinking about
> >it really... the task is at hand... organize the community for positive
> >change while we have the chance with all the resources and minds willing
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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