[WXBH-Discuss] RE: Meeting Last Night

Cory R coryri at gmail.com
Fri Jul 14 21:58:54 EDT 2006 

To be fair, the only business discussed regarding Radio at the last
Board Meeting was approving the two Johns to continue negotiations on
the tower location.  I'm going to remain neutral in this, because I
don't know either of you well enough to make an educated opinion.

As far as the PHP/HTML issue goes, anything HTML can harbor PHP, and
visa versa.  The ongoing standard for design is in fact HTML, but,
HTML is only markup.  The only technical difference between a php page
and an html page is that the extension .php allows you to insert PHP
code into HTML pages.  This I, a technically inclined person, would
consider a non-issue.

Cory

On 7/14/06, Aron Conaway <aronconaway at hotmail.com> wrote:
> "the aron/kristen
> >situation, its not my place, jsut as it probably wasnt
> >his to address such personal issues over a community
> >list... but anyway"
>
>
> When one board member harrasses another endlessly, it should become the
> business of the group. This has been a personal issue for an extended amount
> of time and never resolves. It has become a real problem. If the group does
> nothing about it, then it cannot be expected that a board member simply
> tolerate it. I want you to know what kind of person you are dealing with.
>
> She has been asked to leave the collective once already. The reason was that
> we were informed that Thomas Jefferson Unitarian was doing a raffle for WXBH
> radio. During the raffle Kristen, without any permissin from the group, went
> to Martha Flack, who was organizing the raffle, about to cut a $1,000 check,
> and asked her for $200 cash for the Brick House's long overdue parking bill.
> She was pushy with Martha, and once Kristen left Martha made it clear that
> the encounter had made her uncomfortable and she had a bad impression of the
> situation.  Jamie later told her that she was no longer welcome in the
> collective, which was consensus.
>
> Then, 6 months later, when I was gone to Europe in March for two and a half
> weeks and returned, she had slipped herself right back into the collective.
> I tried to put the personal issues aside, but it all picked up exactly where
> it left off.  I have had no reason beyond the Brick House to deal with
> Kristen and have been successful at avoiding her in all other situations.
>
> I feel she is counter-productive to the radio project and I cannot perform
> to my fullest with her around, so I am gone. I have put up with the
> harrassment for entirely too long in entirely too many venues.
>
> I am explaining this because I don't want the reasons for my leaving and my
> reasons for embellishing to be misunderstood.
>
> ***In regards to my posting to the radio discuss board, as I see that John
> has addressed: It was decided that the Radio Collective and the Board were
> going to be one, so i as "Radio Collective" am addressing Radio Issues that
> are being conducted in Board Meetings, which are open to all, but haven't
> really been advertised as such.
>
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> >From: loyd coy <xscenedestroyerx at yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: WXBH Radio Discussion List <wxbh-discuss at wxbh.org>
> >To: WXBH Radio Discussion List <wxbh-discuss at wxbh.org>
> >Subject: Re: [WXBH-Discuss] RE: Meeting Last Night
> >Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:33:42 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >i just moved here a few weeks ago from lexington. i
> >know that i have missed a few meetings and all but i
> >have been in the process of establishing a life and a
> >job and a routine here in louisville... its been a
> >little hard for me to make every meeting so far due to
> >that... im not gonna address the aron/kristen
> >situation, its not my place, jsut as it probably wasnt
> >his to address such personal issues over a community
> >list... but anyway what i will address is why i chose
> >to participate in the brickhouse to begin with. i used
> >to frequent the old brycc house. some of my fondest
> >memories in life involve it. it was amazing, and
> >taught so many people so much. i know the focus on
> >community projects was sort of lost due to the
> >constant need ot facilitate shows in order to pay the
> >bills.. but even with that said it had such an amazing
> >impact on this community and this entire region from
> >ohio to indianapolis to tennessee and even eastern ky
> >and the rest of appalachia. not to even touch on all
> >the travelers from farther away who past through to
> >see bands or participate in workshops etc... my
> >experience so far at the new brickhouse has been sort
> >of a letdown due to the turmoil in both the building
> >and the "staff"
> >
> >it seems as though the people involved in radio refuse
> >to recognise their commitment to and identity as part
> >of the brickhouse. brick radio is NOT its own entity
> >in entirety. i feel like anyone who wants to be
> >involved in one "collective" and shuck all
> >responsibility to the whole does not belong. i
> >understand that those interested in bikes, or
> >gardening, or shows, or radio might not care about the
> >community center as a whole, but it would not hurt to
> >participate in things needed to keep the whole that
> >shelters your own and all the other collectives going,
> >like general maintenance, fund raising, chores etc. it
> >would sem to me if your interest begins and ends with
> >a particular collective jsut the simple fact that the
> >brickhouse as a whole being the vehicle that makes
> >your participation in that collective possible would
> >motivate you to at least care a little.
> >
> >as far as financial issues go i want to address the
> >radio paying the way for brickhouse issue. i do not
> >think it is the place of radio to totally foot the
> >bill for the brickhouse. i do think it is radio's
> >place to help out if possible with the agreement that
> >said help should be returned when possible. more than
> >anything else we need to be taught to fish not given a
> >fish. if the radio people want to end the issues, then
> >in addition to help as a loan, how about help with
> >fundraising ideas that dont cost money. lets beat the
> >streets, flier and do anything else we can to get
> >money so that the entire brickhouse doesnt go under
> >taking everything including radio with it.
> >
> >i have a sneaking suspision(sp?) that there is some
> >wink wink nudge nudge good ole boy club stuff going
> >on, my fear of this is not as strong as others' cause
> >i give people the benefit of the doubt, but due to
> >some things ive seen and heard first hand i fear that
> >there is some concious if not purposeful action being
> >taken to set brick radio up to be able to continue IF
> >the brickhosue doesnt. when participating in something
> >like this, you cant just take things with you. it
> >doesnt work that way. if that is the motivation it is
> >deplorable and undermines the whole spirit of
> >brickhouse, brickradio, and any other community based
> >organization or non profit. if your interests in brick
> >radio are for personal gain, ego, or whatever else
> >would provoke such an attitude then you need to go
> >work for clearchannel. do not replicate the outside
> >capitalist empirial world within what could be such a
> >wonderful community project. if you want to do a
> >community radio without involvement in the brickhouse
> >then GO FOR IT. if you want to be involved in the
> >community radio that is part of the brickhouse then
> >get your shit straight.
> >
> >also due to what i mentioned above the overwhelming
> >representation of strong radio interests in the
> >brickhouse board of directors is a little
> >disconcerting. if you are on the board of directors,
> >but approach that role with brickradio's best interest
> >in mind as opposed to the brickhouse's best interest
> >in mind then you do not qualify for or deserve your
> >position on the board and should immediately step
> >down.
> >
> >i know im the new guy, and i dont mean to offend. i
> >just dont want to see one of the things that i was
> >most excited about in louisville go to shit because of
> >some people being sketchy and dishonest about their
> >intentions and not owning up to the inherent
> >committment their chosen activities neccessitate.
> >
> >as a last note i think i know where aron is coming
> >from and must say that i agree about the marketing/pr
> >issue. there is more in town than the
> >punk/HC/indie/arts community, but that community is
> >most likely where brickradio would find the most
> >support appreciation and adoration.
> >
> >--- Aron Conaway <aronconaway at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I missed the meeting last night and was not there
> > > for various
> > > personal-to-the-Brick-situation reasons despite the
> > > fact that I was doing a
> > > Music Show with Jamie at 6:00. I asked a couple of
> > > people about the meeting
> > > last night and upon receiving a couple of brief
> > > synopsizes, have very
> > > adverse reactions to the very significant direction
> > > that the project is
> > > moving in. I am unsettled by the recent decisions
> > > made in changing the
> > > structure of the project and sad to find out that
> > > there are committees being
> > > carved out without collective participation (from
> > > what I have gathered).
> > >
> > > First off, having Kristen as committee liaison,
> > > means Kristen will be in the
> > > mix of everything. That, right off, turns me off
> > > from wanting to be involved
> > > at all. Second off, I am not a
> >�financing-committee�
> > > type person, so this is
> > > not really the place for me. Third, I believe that
> > > my strengths and
> > > interests are clearly in the outreach and PR area,
> > > which fell I have made
> > > clear. I feel as though I am being drawn out of this
> > > position without any
> > > consideration at all for my opinion (also making my
> > > efforts to this point
> > > seem pretty under-appreciated). I have significant
> > > media contacts and the
> > > experience of making an Arts organizations
> > > financially successful,
> > > culturally significant and even legendary. I am
> > > friends with and know just
> > > about every profoundly significant underground band
> > > and musician in this
> > > town and can easily get them interested in
> > > participating in this project. I
> > > believe that I have a pretty clear vision as to how
> > > this PR campaign needs
> > > to be done for WXBH. But I am not comfortable with
> > > the way its rolling
> > > presently.
> > >
> > > Months ago and recently I have found it nearly
> > > impossible to be able to put
> > > to good use all my time, effort and talent put into
> > > the newly designed
> > > website, because John H. keeps insisting that it be
> > > done in his PHP format.
> > > I designed it in HTML and in my experience (and
> > > opinion), everyone who
> > > designs strong and easily updatable websites,
> > > designs in HTML. It is the
> > > most useful and universal design language there is.
> > > I feel John is being
> > > overbearing and controlling with his web server.
> > >
> > > I am uncomfortable with the recently developed
> > > executive committee situation
> > > and find it very stifling to my ability to be
> > > effective and even in feeling
> > > comfortable in taking any personal ownership in this
> > > project.
> > >
> > > Kristen is at the LAVA House painting shit on my
> > > belongings and painting
> > > cryptic words like "BE WELL" on the floor in front
> > > of my studio. This is
> > > absolutely insane and makes me not want to be in the
> > > same mile as her.
> > > Kristen you are a fucking nut! Stay out of my way
> > > and as I have told you
> > > repeatedly keep my and Hallie's name out of your
> > > fucking mouth. I will never
> > > again be a part of this project unless she is  100%
> > > gone. She's all yours.
> > >
> > > I am stepping out of this situation.
> > >
> > > Good Luck.
> > >
> > > Free Agent Aron Conaway
> > >
> > >
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