[WXBH-Discuss] Back to Brochure

Thu Jul 6 16:20:07 EDT 2006

I like this copy much much much better.  Anyway, I agree with the mission
statement, just thought it wasn't appropriate in material being handed out.
If you wanna get together tonight, just send me an email to
coryri at gmail.comwith a time, I won't have a cell phone today.

Cory

On 7/6/06, Aron Conaway <aronconaway at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Updated version of brochure:
>
> http://www.wxbh.org/aron/wxbh/showrequestbrochure/
>
> If it looks the same, erase your cache and/or history in internet options.
>
>
> BROCHURE: Rather than tailor the statement to fit in the context of this
> project, I excluded the mission statement and the rest of the text can be
> bigger and more attractive/-ing/-able. I think that will be better anyways
> (thanks John). If someone wants to write a short piece to replace the
> mission statement that says the same thing, but will not be called
> "mission
> ", please help me out.
>
> One technical point/ question.... I was thinking that as the pamphlet
> opened
> up (think journalist's small spiral notebook that flip over the top) that
> the first thing that would be seen would be the bottom half and would be
> the
> focus. That was my rational of putting it on the bottom half. Jennifer
> does
> that change your opinion of it or should I still switch it to the top
> half?
> (oh and this thing will be 4.25 X 11.)
>
> Jennifer, at the bottom is the copy from the brochure for editing. You
> seem
> like you'd be good at it…
>
> COMPUTERS: Corey, if you want to meet at the Brick House tonight to work
> on
> computers, I can do that. In my studio I dug up a Dell Pentium III machine
> that has a sound card, a RCA YRB Video out, 256 meg of RAM and a small
> 10Gig
>   hard drive. I bought it a few months ago with a 21 inch monitor for $10
> at
> St. Joes Bargain Barn. i forgot I had it. It can go in the office with
> whatever we want to add into it. Sorry i am keeping the 21 inch monitor
> though. I'll call you in a bit if I can dig your number up out of my messy
> area here.
>
> MISSION: Look, all I am saying is that a mission statement is very
> important
> to be consistent with. There is no issue beyond that. I can't (or know its
> inappropriate to) on a whim change the mission statement to be what it
> seems
> like it should be for the moment. I am in a masters program in museum
> studies and this point has been beaten into my brain. It is the single
> most
> important little piece of information that an organization can have and
> constantly come back to. The point of my last email was that there needs
> to
> be a serious discussion of this mission statement when we can all sit
> around
> a table and do it. So lets do it soon. At the same time then maybe we can
> come up with some other plug and play statements about WXBH that can be
> easily dropped into literature, websites, emails, etc. I don't like having
> to come back to the drawing board every time I design something.
>
> Corey i apologize for making you feel as though I am bitterly rejecting
> your
> ideas. I was debating a point that i should have left alone for a
> different
> time, when we can have that discussion as a group. No, this is not MY
> brochure, but I am being faced with complications in working out OUR
> flyer.
>
> Again I apologize for dragging this out. Let's be friends.
>
> Kindly, Aron
>
>
> COPY:  that I did in mediocre quality, please feel free to embellish,
> improve and send back for the brochure. Please try to stick to the same
> amount of words. Thank you.
>
> "SPEAK FOR YOURSELF! WE WANT YOU!!!
> WXBH is requesting submissions for pilot radio shows and programming.
> Imaginative offerings in all genres are sought: news, documentary, drama,
> comedy, children's programming, and music of all kinds. Once reviewed by
> the
> WXBH programming committee, your show will be added to the WXBH Radio
> Stream
> and played through this early stage of the station until we receive more
> shows.
>
> If you are interested in being on the radio, complete our online program
> proposal form and submit it immediately for consideration. Create your
> show,
> free of obscene language and content (or else it won't be heard). Edit it
> on
> a computer (yours or ours) using free software "Audacity" (linked at our
> site), and once completed, bring it in for us to air.  Details and more
> information: WXBH.org
> Get involved! Your show will make WXBH a success locally and
> internationally.
> DEADLINE: JULY 31, 2006"
>
> _____________________________________________________________________________________
>
>
> >From: "Jennifer Oladipo" <jenniferola at wildmail.com>
> >Reply-To: WXBH Radio Discussion List <wxbh-discuss at wxbh.org>
> >To: wxbh-discuss at wxbh.org
> >Subject: Re: Re: [WXBH-Discuss] Principles/brochure
> >Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 11:51:20 -0400
> >
> >Hello all,
> >
> >I just wanted to say that the issue at hand with the brochure is largely
> >(not only, but largely) what will be clear and attractive to various
> people
> >in our community.
> >
> >It's common practice in marketing -- corporate AND nonprofit -- to tailor
> >the message for the the audience and the goal. I think that's perfectly
> >fine as long as it's honest and doesn't misrepresent the "seller." And
> hey,
> >we're selling an idea. A very good one.
> >
> >What do we have, about 3x8 inches? And from the average person, about a
> >minute of attention? Maybe two? Along with wide variances in education,
> >personal concerns, literacy (media, politcal, social and otherwise), time
> >constraints... all of which I'm glad about, because that's what we want
> on
> >community radio. I hope.
> >
> >So I'm just asking that we all continue to keep these things in mind.
> We're
> >trying to sell an unpopular idea to several different types of people.
> >Hundreds of them. It's awesome that there's so much concern over how we
> >present ourselves. I'm seeing basically, "Let's not compromise" and
> "Let's
> >not alienate."  These two things aren't mutually exclusive.
> >
> >Here's mine "Let's just make sure this one peice of literature is as
> >effective as possible, whatever our opinions."
> >
> >Also, I'm still very excited about the who thing. I hope everyone else
> is,
> >too.
> >
> >Jennifer
> >
> >
> >---- Begin Original Message ----
> >  From: "Cory R" <coryri at gmail.com>
> >Sent: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 11:10:36 -0400
> >To: "WXBH Radio Discussion List" <wxbh-discuss at wxbh.org>
> >Subject: Re: [WXBH-Discuss] Principles
> >
> >I don't want to beat dead horses any more than anyone else but, "I
> disagree
> >completely with dumbing down our message because people don't have the
> self
> >respect to pick up a dictionary..." sounds very elitist.  I agree with
> the
> >use of the word, but if we're going to make any real change in society we
> >can't preach to the choir.  We need to go out and show people that they
> >have
> >the power to change themselves, not just book smart people who already
> know
> >this.  We don't have to water down anything in regards to our mission
> >statement or anything, we can leave the mission statement how it is.  I
> >just
> >think it's a better idea to put a laymans version of our mission
> statement
> >and everything else on our publicly available material.  I can't say that
> >everyone knows what egalitarian means and I can't vouch for the rest of
> >society's competancy in the english language.  After all "git er dun" is
> a
> >popular phrase in our culture.
> >
> >Again, I don't want to offend anyone.  Just excersizing that freedom of
> >speech that american revolutionaries thought was so important that they
> >died
> >to give it to us.  You're free to use whatever you want, it seems like it
> >is
> >YOUR flyer, not OUR flyer.  Please, don't ask for suggestions and
> bitterly
> >reject them when they're not what you want to hear.
> >
> >On another note, when are we getting together, I feel a real big need to
> >meet up and get things done.  This week of doing jack-$#!^ is killing me.
> >Especially since things NEED to be done.
> >
> >
> >Cory
> >
> >On 7/5/06, Aron Conaway <aronconaway at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't want to sound too shitty here, but I am concerned about
> >nitpicking
> > > this thing to death. I am going to reccomend that we design a very
> >formal
> > > process for dealing with these types of issues (revisiting decisions
> >made
> > > in
> > > the past). I am trying to create a product here and it is getting more
> > > complex than any individual should have to deal with. i appreciate the
> > > comments about the brochure specifically, but lets bring these other
> > > issues
> > > up in a meeting when someone feels it is time to discuss coming to a
> > > consensus. I feel like this type of activity in an organization is
> > > counterproductive and inefficient use of time and energy. People leave
> > > volunteer organizations because the wheels keep spinning and
> everything
> >is
> > > discussed to death rather than just making a decision and taking
> action.
> > > I apologize Jennifer and Corey for using this opportuntiy to highlight
> > > these
> > > concerns, but this is wearing me out.
> > >
> > > For the sake of making further points,
> > > The word egalitarian is a loaded word, but if you look it up it is a
> >very
> > > positive word...
> > > http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/egalitarian
> > >
> > > e·gal·i·tar·i·an   Audio pronunciation of "egalitarian" ( P
> > > )  Pronunciation
> > > Key  (-gl-târ-n)
> > > adj.    Affirming, promoting, or characterized by belief in equal
> > > political,
> > > economic, social, and civil rights for all people.
> > >
> > > egalitarian
> > > adj : favoring social equality; "a classless society" [syn: classless]
> n
> >:
> > > a
> > > person who believes in the equality of all people [syn: equalitarian]
> > > [ant:
> > > elitist]
> > >
> > >
> > > Notice the antonym for it is "elitist".  If we go running from every
> >word
> > > that has been demonized by the right wing then we will have no
> >principles
> > > to
> > > stand on. We are what we are and I don't think we should shy away from
> > > that.
> > > A mission statement is set at the beginning of a groups journey and
> sets
> > > its
> > > course. i think that its important to accept that the organization has
> > > come
> > > up with a vision. People respect those who have integrity and stand by
> > > that.
> > > Everyone I have spoken to about underwriting, from former WRFL
> founders
> >to
> > > community leaders, have stated that we will gain and retain respect by
> > > being
> > > clear in our beliefs.
> > >
> > > I disagree completely with dumbing down our message because people
> don't
> > > have the self respect to pick up a dictionary. Do we really want to
> >water
> > > WXBH down? The mission speaks to OUR intentions. The rest of our
> > > presentation can be inviting and simplistic.
> > >
> > > kindly, Aron
> > >
> > > PS i will be making the changes that Jennifer suggested and will send
> it
> > > back out when i can.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Jennifer Oladipo" < jenniferola at wildmail.com>
> > > >Reply-To: WXBH Radio Discussion List <wxbh-discuss at wxbh.org>
> > > >To: wxbh-discuss at wxbh.org
> > > >Subject: Re: Re: [WXBH-Discuss] Draft Show Request Brochure
> > > >Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 08:27:17 -0400
> > > >
> > > >Hello all. I'm inclined to agree with Corey on "egalitarian,"
> >especially
> > > >because not everyone knows what that means. Maybe the mission
> statement
> > > can
> > > >come last, after you tell people they'll get to do something, get
> free
> > > >training, etc.
> > > >
> > > >Similarly, FCC is also not necessarily common knowlege. Maybe you can
> > > just
> > > >say something 'laws' or 'regulations,' etc.
> > > >
> > > >Also, instead of WXBH requesting... How about something more along
> the
> > > >lines of "what do you want to say?" or "let your voice be heard" or
> "we
> > > >want to hear from you!" or "dying to get something off your chest"
> ....
> > > >something like that. Something that says "you, you, you!"
> > > >
> > > >Also, can  you make the "YOU" on the mic bigger?
> > > >
> > > >I wish I had time to be more specific, but I'm at work. I moved last
> >week
> > > >and don't yet have i-access at home. See you all soon.
> > > >
> > > >It looks good, Aron.
> > > >
> > > >Jennifer
> > > >
> > > >
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